Comments on: Increasing the summary length in FS4SP http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/ A blog about Search as THE solution Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:07:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.40 By: ken http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-36 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:08:32 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-36 Hi Vegard,

Thanks for your post, this is what I was exactly looking for. If you don’t mind explaining the paramater near.2 param means?

If I’m not mistaken dynlength sets the length of the teaser and dynmatches sets the number of matching terms in the document to fit in the teaser.

FYI.
I’m still using the stand alone product FAST ESP 5.3. :)

]]> By: Mikael Svenson http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-35 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:55:56 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-35 That’s great information Vegard. I wish this would work in the SharePoint space as well, but the QR server is not directly accessible, and the WCF wrappers have limited support for qr parameters.

]]> By: Vegard Sandvold http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-34 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:50:12 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-34 Hi Ken!

You can pass configuration to juniper as parameters to the qrserver. Simply add juniper=<param_name>.<value>[_<param_name>.<value>]* to the qrserver URL. Pay attention to the underscore for separating options.

Some useful parameter may be dynlength, dynmatches, dynsurmax, and winsize.

An example:

juniper=near.2_dynlength.512_dynmatches.8

I’m not at liberty to share the reference, I’m afraid, but I’m happy to answer more questions.

I hope this information is useful to you!

]]> By: Mikael Svenson http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-33 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:22:43 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-33 Hi Ken,
Unfortunately there is no query parameter for limiting the teaser from Juniper. Your best bet is what SharePoint does, it applies code logic to the teaser afterwards to cut it like they want to.

That was also my intention by increasing the teaser. Juniper creates a not so good teaser, so give me more text and I can create it myself.

]]> By: ken http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-32 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:34:04 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-32 Hi Vegard,

Do you have a reference on the Juniper parameters? Thanks.

Mikael,

Is it possible to decrease the length of the generated dynamic teaser from query parameter rather than modifying the fsearch.addon file?

Thanks a lot!

]]> By: Mikael Svenson http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-31 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:40:56 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-31 I haven’t seen a specific document on this. Only the general ones and the comments included in fsearch.addon. There might exist some unofficial ones around at FAST distributed to partners at one time or another (which is what Vegard refers to in his comment).

]]> By: ken http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-30 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:26:58 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-30 Hi Mikael,

Are you referring to the group of PDF documents? So there is no specific document regarding Juniper.

Thanks,
Kenneth

]]> By: Mikael Svenson http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-29 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:02:20 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-29 You can find some information in the documentation included with ESP 5.3 (FSIS/FSIA). Other information we use have been gathered over the years working with the product.

]]> By: ken http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-28 Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:22:40 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-28 Hi,

I’m still new to FAST ESP and would like to ask this question. Do you know where to get the Juniper documentation that is used by FAST ESP?

Thanks.

]]> By: Vegard Sandvold http://blog.comperiosearch.com/blog/2010/11/30/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-27 Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:53:15 +0000 http://nuggets.comperiosearch.com/2010/11/increasing-the-summary-length-in-fs4sp/#comment-27 Hi Mikael!

I agree 100% that the default setting for juniper, and the summaries it produces are often less than readable. Usually there’s too many truncated sentences.

Setting max_matches as low as 1 can often force juniper to create more coherent summaries. Here’s an example from VisitNorway with

juniper.dynsum.length 200
juniper.dynsum.max_matches 2
juniper.dynsum.surround_max 64
juniper.matcher.winsize 600

http://www.visitnorway.com/en/VN/Search/?querystring=lofoten&configuration=multi&offset=0&sortby=relevance&param=searchview,vninternationalprod&hits=10

Some unofficial juniper documentation list a whole range of additional juniper settings that could be of interest to you:

juniper.dynsum.min_length
juniper.dynsum.tok_surround_max
juniper.dynsum.mode
juniper.dynsum.scope_limit
juniper.dynsum.allow_overlap
juniper.dynsum.merge_tags

Ask me for a reference :-)

Cheers,
Vegard

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